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Raja
Dec 05, 2009, 08:23 PM
http://books.google.com/books?id=u5JOCtQRzRcC&lpg=PP7&ots=bOnyT0m24W&dq=self%20defense%20martial%20arts&pg=PP7#v=onepage&q=self%20defense%20martial%20arts&f=false

I thought this was a pretty interesting book. Definitely stuff I'd practice with a friend to get it down.

nelco
Dec 05, 2009, 09:10 PM
Yes, sure. Let's learn self defense from a book. A defense against weapons espesially.
I am sure Evilone has a few things to say about that.

MF!
Dec 05, 2009, 11:50 PM
lol... "street ready stance"

EvilOne
Dec 06, 2009, 12:55 AM
the only thing even decent is some of the cuffing thechiques. and that is for a compliant suspect. all of that other shit will get you hurt or killed

vostok
Dec 06, 2009, 01:10 AM
You'll learn everything you need to know lol

Raja
Dec 06, 2009, 02:31 AM
Evilone- Good to know. What do you think of this one:

http://www.selfdefenseresource.com/combatives/articles/Combatives%20FM%203-25.150.pdf

phlex
Dec 06, 2009, 08:33 AM
Even the hand cuffin is bad. this work if you are at least as strong as your opponent, wich is not always the case.
The second one looks like bjj in the us army. Not enough eyes gouging nor use of weak points of the face to be really effective.

nelco
Dec 06, 2009, 08:37 AM
That is basic BJJ and Sambo.

The chance that a soldier will have to use it is minimal.
At the same time if the soldier will come up against Tito, Brock, or Fedor all that stuff won't help.
I still won't learn from a book. I will learn how to do push ups from a book, but not complicated combat techniques. If you learn them wrong, it can cost you.

MF!
Dec 06, 2009, 07:19 PM
Evilone- Good to know. What do you think of this one:

http://www.selfdefenseresource.com/combatives/articles/Combatives%20FM%203-25.150.pdf

idaknow..... those soldiers look a little too happy in that back mount for me to want to attempt trying ne of that

MF!
Dec 06, 2009, 07:38 PM
just in general, i remember reading an article in black belt mag about how there are so many fighting tutorials that exist out there in various mags and online and such, and they straight up just dont work. it had to do alot with unrealistic situations, unrealistic positioning (like how often is your opponent gonna stand completely erect with his arm straight out waiting for you to grab his arm and do some hapki-akido-tai chiokwon do bs on it??), and as well misleading guidelines in general.

you're best off learning from someone experienced in the given art

nelco
Dec 06, 2009, 07:43 PM
just in general, i remember reading an article in black belt mag about how there are so many fighting tutorials that exist out there in various mags and online and such, and they straight up just dont work. it had to do alot with unrealistic situations, unrealistic positioning (like how often is your opponent gonna stand completely erect with his arm straight out waiting for you to grab his arm and do some hapki-akido-tai chiokwon do bs on it??), and as well misleading guidelines in general.

you're best off learning from someone experienced in the given art

The realistic attacker won't move, before you let him know that he can. The signal to that, would be a kia yell, with a punch demonstratatively stopped an inch away from the target.

Raja
Dec 06, 2009, 11:15 PM
just in general, i remember reading an article in black belt mag about how there are so many fighting tutorials that exist out there in various mags and online and such, and they straight up just dont work. it had to do alot with unrealistic situations, unrealistic positioning (like how often is your opponent gonna stand completely erect with his arm straight out waiting for you to grab his arm and do some hapki-akido-tai chiokwon do bs on it??), and as well misleading guidelines in general.



Good point. There are just so many tutorials and such that don't do justice to what a real fight is about. I don't have the cash or the interest to go to a mcdojo right now. I'm more inclined to get together with a friend and train honestly.

EvilOne
Dec 07, 2009, 09:50 AM
RAJA, there is good stuff in that pdf. But having done many of the techniques listed, its would be hard for me to perform the moves as the instructions are written. Let alone attempting to learn the moves from that verbage.

Fatman
Dec 07, 2009, 10:14 AM
The signal to that, would be a kia yell, with a punch demonstratatively stopped an inch away from the target.

Surely you forget the trusted HADOUKEN? I have also found that to work well.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/Hadouken_-_Ryu_to_Ken.jpg

MF!
Dec 07, 2009, 01:01 PM
Surely you forget the trusted HADOUKEN? I have also found that to work well.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/Hadouken_-_Ryu_to_Ken.jpg

personally, i prefer destructo disk

http://100megsfree4.com/abcsofdbz/gallery/destructo.jpg